Comments on: I would rather be a cyborg than a goddess http://edc13.education.ed.ac.uk/candacen/2013/03/12/i-would-rather-be-a-cyborg-than-a-goddess/ part of the MSc in E-learning at the University of Edinburgh Sat, 06 Apr 2013 00:27:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Candace Nolan-Grant http://edc13.education.ed.ac.uk/candacen/2013/03/12/i-would-rather-be-a-cyborg-than-a-goddess/#comment-1528 Candace Nolan-Grant Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:19:52 +0000 http://edc13.education.ed.ac.uk/candacen/?p=253#comment-1528 Hi Sian I'm not sure that I was going for critique...just grabbing fragments that were comprehensible to me and trying to compare them to what I thought she might be suggesting!! :) Perhaps after the first few paragraphs I was lulled into a false sense of security in thinking I could read the rest of the piece as a modernist essay--looking at it as something different, maybe experimental or even self-refuting as far as its textuality and context goes, might have been more helpful. In that case, I kind of get the sense that I sometimes do in reading Derrida...e.g., if words are only meaningful in unique contexts, how could writing this book be meaningful? In this case perhaps it's a similar quandary...words are the essentialisation of concepts (borrowing from Hayles, Platonic forms stripped of context), but how can you problematise this concept of generalisation, of unification and One, while using words? Not that I don't think Haraway realises this within the piece; I rather get the sense that she enjoys purposefully enigmatic phrases--'infidel heteroglossia'--while still arguing that 'Writing is pre-eminently the technology of cyborgs'. I'm still uneasy about this, though...mostly because I still don't think I get it :) But maybe also in the thought that, while Joyce or Woolf also 'de-essentialise' words, their work seems to ultimately move towards--perhaps--affinity, while Haraway seems to be moving more towards (again, in an ironic way) a curious individualisation of language (emerging from a personal cyborg experience) which gives up on mutual understanding on the assumption that it never existed anyway... I think I'd better stop now! Hi Sian

I’m not sure that I was going for critique…just grabbing fragments that were comprehensible to me and trying to compare them to what I thought she might be suggesting!! :) Perhaps after the first few paragraphs I was lulled into a false sense of security in thinking I could read the rest of the piece as a modernist essay–looking at it as something different, maybe experimental or even self-refuting as far as its textuality and context goes, might have been more helpful. In that case, I kind of get the sense that I sometimes do in reading Derrida…e.g., if words are only meaningful in unique contexts, how could writing this book be meaningful? In this case perhaps it’s a similar quandary…words are the essentialisation of concepts (borrowing from Hayles, Platonic forms stripped of context), but how can you problematise this concept of generalisation, of unification and One, while using words? Not that I don’t think Haraway realises this within the piece; I rather get the sense that she enjoys purposefully enigmatic phrases–’infidel heteroglossia’–while still arguing that ‘Writing is pre-eminently the technology of cyborgs’.

I’m still uneasy about this, though…mostly because I still don’t think I get it :) But maybe also in the thought that, while Joyce or Woolf also ‘de-essentialise’ words, their work seems to ultimately move towards–perhaps–affinity, while Haraway seems to be moving more towards (again, in an ironic way) a curious individualisation of language (emerging from a personal cyborg experience) which gives up on mutual understanding on the assumption that it never existed anyway…

I think I’d better stop now!

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By: sbayne http://edc13.education.ed.ac.uk/candacen/2013/03/12/i-would-rather-be-a-cyborg-than-a-goddess/#comment-1418 sbayne Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:28:45 +0000 http://edc13.education.ed.ac.uk/candacen/?p=253#comment-1418 Candace, I'm not 100% sure if I'm right in my interpretation of your critique here, but I think you are doing something very interesting in trying to draw out some of the contradictions and inconsistencies embedded within Haraway's text. However I wonder whether the (partial?) unifications and affiliations you mention here are could actually just be seen as ironic gestures, in a cyborg sense? In a way, it's hard to critique Haraway's text along these lines without succumbing to 'unification' in one's own argument - after all, I doubt Haraway would have a problem with a reading of the text which emphasised its internal contradictions : ) Which makes critique hard - the cyborg seems to be a slippery beast! Candace, I’m not 100% sure if I’m right in my interpretation of your critique here, but I think you are doing something very interesting in trying to draw out some of the contradictions and inconsistencies embedded within Haraway’s text. However I wonder whether the (partial?) unifications and affiliations you mention here are could actually just be seen as ironic gestures, in a cyborg sense? In a way, it’s hard to critique Haraway’s text along these lines without succumbing to ‘unification’ in one’s own argument – after all, I doubt Haraway would have a problem with a reading of the text which emphasised its internal contradictions : ) Which makes critique hard – the cyborg seems to be a slippery beast!

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